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Tuesday, July 26, 2005

Remedy For Rape!

Any man who dares to abuse a woman should be hung upside down, repeatedly whipped and beaten with wooden clubs, burned with cigarette butts, branded with soldering irons, and have his genitals ripped off.


Courtesy: Chinese torture

125 Comments:

At Tue Jul 26, 06:03:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ramya,
Your blog looks too much of negatives!
Why ? Enna aachu...

 
At Tue Jul 26, 09:12:00 PM, Blogger Twin-Gemini said...

Same thing should be applied for women too, right? ;-)

 
At Wed Jul 27, 08:58:00 AM, Blogger Miya said...

Kasthuri, how do you feel when you read the news everyday about the rapes?

It infuriates me.

 
At Wed Jul 27, 10:37:00 AM, Blogger Kasthuri said...

I feel bad. But I am not saying just with regard to this post. It would be better if you address some measures of preventing it, or in general how the society can be improved to over come some these evils. Constructive critisism is the need for the hour.

 
At Wed Jul 27, 10:55:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Kasthuri

It would be better if you address some measures of preventing it, or in general how the society can be improved to over come some these evils. Constructive critisism is the need for the hour.

Perhaps you should practice what you preach? Apart from offering vacuous platitudes you haven't really contributed much constructively, forget constructive criticism.

On second thought you seem to be taking a different approach - Close your eyes to anything negative around you and pretend that nothing negative exists. Sort of like an ostrich that buries its head in sand or the cat that closes its eyes and assumes no one is looking.

Wake up and smell the coffee! Get out of your cocoon dude! The world is a much different place than you are imagining it to be...

 
At Wed Jul 27, 11:06:00 AM, Blogger Kasthuri said...

Dear Anonymous Dude,

Emperor's new clothes ?!!!

 
At Wed Jul 27, 12:06:00 PM, Blogger Miya said...

> if you address some measures of preventing it,

Hmm inteereesting

(a) How about putting all the men in cages?
(b) Do what Delmy Margoth Ruiz did!

But duuh, isn't that exactly what I have suggested in the first place a ‘REMEDY’!!

 
At Wed Jul 27, 01:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kasthuri:

Dear Anonymous Dude,

One more MCP :-)

Do you even know the story about the emperor's new clothes? Doesn't look you do...

 
At Wed Jul 27, 03:05:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems that the most damaging of crimes are used during times of war.
Brutual killing (in its various forms, genocide, murder, blah blah...) is one of them. The other one is rape.

Yet, the way (at least some) societies look at these two crimes is quite divergent.
(murder -> lifer/death : rape -> time to get married (at least in some cases) .. no? .. ok some years we guess)

How could such divergence come into being?
I say, becuase it is a male dominated society.

Disagree?

If not, then it should be case that people in general, don't consider rape to be as big a 'deal' as murder. But that should not be true, becuase there are enough examples where rape is ordered as a punishment (and the victims arnt exactly treated nice... (readers can add-in the superlatives))

The thing is, in a society where everybody agrees that punishment for a crime must reflect the true nature of the crime, maybe (I don't know) a majority of the section has messed up ideas about rape.

It is just me, or are there others there too who have noticed it? There seems to a whole bunch of human males who seem to think that rape is just a 'sexual crime'.
The term 'sexual crime' doesnt describe even a part of it (ok.. just a small part of it).
This is a crime of power. A crime of establishing physical control, and trying to establish mental control over the victim. And... It does not stop there. (the high school bully stopped there... and god damn... I hated him... if I had the power, I would have ripped his filthy heart out.. ok not the right thing...
but you get the point)

Rape is not limited to women, children can also be victims. (men.... well not unless you are jonny depp in prison)
It is crime which majorly exploits the biological nature of a certain section of the population.

The section is not the more dominent among the current population. Hence, I think the difference in outlook.

But... this is what I believe:-
agressive species tend to cluster around Local Maximas in the evolutionary space. The human male is one such agressive entity. I think that the human race 'uses' the agressive male for elminating the
'evolutionary enimies'. Due to this nature the male becomes relatively more powerful at times (the local maximas, like right now).
But with time, the female has to dominate, and that will be the global maxima, or a higher level of local maxima after which a higher form of life has to come into being.

But then, this may take a time (millions of years..?) Or may be these transitions may overlap (are overlapping?).

PS: (though not related directly to the current discussion) --
A seemingly radical idea is from the
"Cult of the new Eve". (they even claim to expose the 'false eves')
http://www.critical-art.net/biotech/cone/index.html

Cult Of The New Eve

 
At Thu Jul 28, 08:46:00 AM, Blogger Lavanya said...

Hi Anonymous,
It would have been respectable of you to just pin-point where other people go wrong, or right according to you; instead of choosing to be insulting all the time. No one is going to listen to you if you shoo them away with insults. Secondly, insulting others at the first go would de-balance you, which is not good.

Call me MCP, FCP, feminist, I do not care; except that you might care.

Lavanya.

 
At Thu Jul 28, 01:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a crime of power. A crime of establishing physical control, and trying to establish mental control over the victim. And... It does not stop there.

I agree. I think this is also why you find that conquering armies often engage in rape of the conquered women - its a way of telling the men that there were not strong enough to protect their women. Of course this whole thing relates to the stronger-weaker sex and hunter/nurturer ideas which are starting to change in today's world.

agressive species tend to cluster around Local Maximas in the evolutionary space. The human male is one such agressive entity. I think that the human race 'uses' the agressive male for elminating the
'evolutionary enimies'.


Interesting theory. But how can you say that the entire human race uses the aggressive male for eliminating evolutionary enemies? Take the instance of rape - the only "enemies" it elimiates, from an evolutionary p-o-v, are other males, not other species? Maybe you were trying to say something else?

 
At Thu Jul 28, 01:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would have been respectable of you to just pin-point where other people go wrong, or right according to you;

I tend to agree with what the first "Anonymous" said. It seems like Lavanya is trying to defend Kasturi here (or maybe its the same person!) But if I look at the posts, I see Kasturi doing the same thing which Lavanya accuses "Anonymous" of doing. What gives?

instead of choosing to be insulting all the time. No one is going to listen to you if you shoo them away with insults.

Where is the insult? And it looks atleast one person (Lavanya/Kasturi) is listening!! :-)

Secondly, insulting others at the first go would de-balance you, which is not good.

Is "de-balance" even a word? What does it mean?

Call me MCP, FCP, feminist, I do not care; except that you might care.

I'm completely lost with the above statement! Perhaps there is some off-line argument going on between "Anonymous" and "Kasturi/Lavanya"? If so, may I suggest that you folks keep it offline? Posts which don't contribute to the discussion are very distracting...

 
At Thu Jul 28, 03:33:00 PM, Blogger Kasthuri said...

Sridhar - What a nice name that "Anonymous" chooses...Anyway, it is very interesting to see even people who have a Ph.D.don't know how to behave or move with people. They live in their own world of criticism. I would rather call them fools. Oh, not to insult you Anonymous/Sridhar...you are God !

 
At Thu Jul 28, 04:14:00 PM, Blogger Lavanya said...

Ramya,
You may choose to delete some comments if you feel they are digressing. No hard feelings.

Lavanya.

 
At Thu Jul 28, 08:29:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sridhar - What a nice name that "Anonymous" chooses...

Buddy, I have no reason to hide my name.

Anyway, it is very interesting to see even people who have a Ph.D. don't know how to behave or move with people. They live in their own world of criticism. I would rather call them fools.

Heh heh! Dude if you have a gripe against someone else, take it up with them. You are the one making a fool of yourself here.

Oh, not to insult you Anonymous/Sridhar...you are God !

Yeah thanks! Thats what I was waiting for - a proclamation from the Super God Kasthuri!! I guess now I can officially call myself God (with a capital G)!!

You sure have a warped sense of the world. You see two posts both criticizing you immediately assume it must be from the same person even though the names of the posters are not the same! Some logic!! Maybe you should write about and dissect this brilliant theory of yours on your blog...

Whoever this "Anonymous" is, surely has you figured out right!! I haven't seen even a single meaningful comment from you on this blog...

And what's with the Ph.D. stuff? I'll be lucky if I manage to complete my bachelor's degree right now!! But I did some googling and looks like you are the big shot going for a P. H. D.!! And your blog removed all doubts - everything OHT :-)

BTW I thought Ph.D. students were supposed to be doing research - looking at the frequency of your posts you seem to be spending more time trolling the web than working on your P. H. D. My B.S. seems to be tougher than your P. H. D. Maybe I should transfer to TAMU...

Dude, get real and get a life... And stick to writing about things which you are familiar with - like wondering if a set of sets is a set. I guess whoever said P.H.D. stands for Permanent Head Damage wasn't joking, althouh you seem to be experiencing the effects even before you finish!!

 
At Fri Jul 29, 05:56:00 AM, Blogger Miya said...

Sridhar & the rest,

Thanks for visiting my blog, but I request you to refrain from insulting others. Comments & criticism on MY postings are welcome but no personal insults.

Please handle your personal differences elsewhere.

Thanks

 
At Fri Jul 29, 09:10:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is nothing that I would agree with more. In fact, they should be castrated and let roam free in society with their names publicized as Rapists that need shunned every where every place.

Constructive criticism is not the need of the hour. We need to get brutal and agressive about paedophiles and rapists.

 
At Tue Aug 02, 06:19:00 AM, Blogger tt_giant said...

Severe punishment needs to be meted out to these kind of criminals. Almost every day there is an article about some small child being kidnapped..

 
At Tue Aug 02, 08:31:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Ramya
Read with interest your blogs and realize the anguish in you on the socio-economic ills in our society. Keep up the crusade. At least we will die having a sense of purpose and some acomplishment in life.

 
At Wed Aug 10, 02:59:00 PM, Blogger Arvind Srinivasan said...

jayanth,

it will never deter people ! :-(

 
At Sat Aug 27, 11:14:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My advice to future rapists ....find a prostitute ..and do your thing ...thats it... Never force ur self mentally or physically on others !!

 
At Sat Sep 03, 10:00:00 AM, Blogger swami said...

Ramya,
I assume the same punishment would hold for women who sexually harass men?

Your post seems to be a one-sided view!

 
At Fri Oct 14, 01:32:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ramya Ramaswamy ..

I cannot believe you said the below.I believe the muslim relegin and burkha changed you lot .I see you strted hating men.you shoudl remove the burkha and see the reality...

rakesh

At Wed Jul 27, 02:06:04 PM, Ramya Ramaswamy said...
> if you address some measures of preventing it,

Hmm inteereesting

(a) How about putting all the men in cages?
(b) Do what Delmy Margoth Ruiz did!

But duuh, isn't that exactly what I have suggested in the first place a ‘REMEDY’!!

 
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pity ...somethings never change ..

sad ... we knw this and never change ...

 
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